How do counters work? I did a search, and couoldn't fnd anything in the 3+ pages of returns, so i apologize if this question has come up before.

I tried them out on the combat simulator, but i'm not much closer to figuring them out.

I understand the activation cost, the "stealing" of successes, but i'm not sure about the table 3.4.  Do you get an "extra" attack for successfully performing a counter?

Or do you simply get the bonus dice for the next exchange and have to attack the area rolled on table 3.4?

Remember also that the counter works out the bonus dice differently. With most maneuvers it's your defense successes minus the attackers successes, but with the counter you get the attackers successes in bonus dice as long as you had more successes than that for your defense roll.

So, if you roll 8 defensive successes and the attacker gets 6 successes, with most other maneuvers you would get 2 bonus dice (8-6) but for counter you get the full 6.

Brian.

I'm sure this has been covered in the past (can't find it at the moment), but what about a "tie" in the counter attempt?  It's technically a successful parry, but in ties the initiative goes to the original agressor.  I've been playing that a "tie" in the counter attempt has no additional effect... it's just like any other tied parry.  Am I playing this right?

Also, one of the counter results is a grapple... it strikes me if you roll a grapple, you'd better pray your opponent doesn't have any CP left... he can ignore the grapple and whack you, even with the CP penalties from a successful grapple if he's good enough.  Has this happened in anyone's experience?  My TROS player doesn't have the spare CP to counter very often.

-Mark