Amazing Series of Sorcerer Threads on SG
jburneko:
Ron,
This has been extremely helpful. It mostly confirms stuff I already knew or at least was beginning to suspect but it's nice to see it spelled out.
When I GM Sorcerer I deal with the "I stop him" statement all the time. Hell, all my GMing life I've dealt with the NPC tries to leave player cries, "Wait, Wait, I stop him!" situation. This discussion confirms that I am not out of place asking, "How?" and that, "by whatever means will work" is not an acceptable answer. Although, that reply is increasingly rare these days.
A second issue is players mistaking GM statement of intent for fiated resolution. Player says, "I flirt with her." GM replies, "she brushes you off." Player says, "Oh. Well then I do..." skipping over the die roll cause the GM said she brushed him off. This has lead to me rarely stating reactions for NPCs and just calling for a roll, immediately. I realize now this is a bad habit and I should simply be more vigilant over when a player mistakes my statements as outcomes rather than intentions.
Thanks again.
Jesse
Marshall Burns:
To make an observation that isn't really functional for the discussion, I'm thinking that this whole thing is something that only roleplayers could be confused about. I include myself in that statement, and I don't mean it as an insult to anybody; I just have a strong suspicion that, were I to show the rules to my writer or improv friends who don't roleplay, they would get it pretty quickly. It really is simple and straightforward once you look at it squarely.
-Marshall
Moreno R.:
Another one:
[Practice: Sorcerer] Demon Abilities
Ron Edwards:
Josh and I had a long and enjoyable phone conversation to clarify the workings of the Sorcerer rules.
I've moved the few posts which prompted that conversation away from this thread.
Best, Ron
jburneko:
Quote from: jburneko on March 17, 2008, 09:57:13 AM
This has lead to me rarely stating reactions for NPCs and just calling for a roll, immediately.
Last weekend I played Sorcerer and walked away realizing this statement was a lie on my part. There was a scene where a Bishop (PC) goes to the Mother Superior (NPC) of a convent and asks to see a young woman staying there.
I say (as the Mother Superior): "I can tell you the woman is well, your grace, and that you needn't bother yourself with such a trivial matter."
The player (as the Bishop) responds, "Something is my business if I say it's my business."
Clearly a conflict. But before calling for the roll I thought, "Okay, now we have to come up with something concrete." But then I realized we just did. The Mother Superior is claiming the girl is not worth the Bishop's time and The Bishop is pulling rank.
Jesse
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