Iapetus Fantasy

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Lucca:
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Race Illustrations (Some Sample)

[img=http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4532/mysticow4.jpg]

[img=http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9387/s7hu9.jpg]



Class Illustrations (Some Sample)

[img=http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4234/a22kn9.jpg]

[img=http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/426/s20hy1.jpg]


Interior Artwork

[img=http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6691/z1df8.jpg]



Sample Monster page
[img=http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6661/z2rl2.jpg]


[img=http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4520/z3xz4.jpg]







[img=http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1531/s1vj9.jpg]



Lucca:
Quote from: Eero Tuovinen on April 15, 2008, 06:39:46 AM

Heh, I love the innocent look of that illustration. I could imagine a good game out of those premises as well, but I'm a jaded bastard. Luckily you don't need to convince me ;)

Let us know if you need more perspective on your printing problem. One method to consider is to print only parts of the book in color, which might help keep the costs under control. For example, if your book has a dozen particularly striking illustration pages, then leaving only those in color might cut the printing cost by half. That's not possible at nearly all printers, though, as it requires them to have some specific flexibilities in their processes.


Thanks thanks! Yes, i thinking of printing a few as samples first, since i have no other choice, or additional funds as lulu basic cost is very expensive.

I have 5G of illustrations and artwork in the Iapetus Fantasy @@ So i would like to see it all in print, as the artists felt the same as well.

Lucca:
Sorry for the double posts. I am trying to the pictures to appear...

Race Illustrations (Some Sample)

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/4532/mysticow4.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9387/s7hu9.jpg



Class Illustrations (Some Sample)

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/4234/a22kn9.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/426/s20hy1.jpg


Interior Artwork

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/6691/z1df8.jpg



Sample Monster page
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6661/z2rl2.jpg


http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4520/z3xz4.jpg


Ron Edwards:
Please don't try to show the pictures here. The links will be perfectly good for that purpose.

Let's keep the discussion focused on the process of printing and publishing that will work best for you, rather than merely showing us pictures.

Best, Ron

Eero Tuovinen:
Quote from: Lucca on April 15, 2008, 06:50:15 AM

Thanks thanks! Yes, i thinking of printing a few as samples first, since i have no other choice, or additional funds as lulu basic cost is very expensive.


I might be imagining it, but that sentence makes me think that you might be using Lulu wrong. The idea behind a POD printer like Lulu is definitely not to print any copies at all of the book for yourself - or perhaps just one or two to use for demonstrations or whatnot. But other than that, and that wouldn't cost you more than a couple dozen dollars, you wouldn't be funding any printing; your customers will pay for the printing at the same time as they pay for each book.

That's pretty basic, but I'm just making sure that we're talking about the same thing. The high price is still a bit of a problem because it makes your game less competitive and/or leaves you less of a profit per copy sold, but it shouldn't be an investment capital problem. If you need to have several dozen copies of the book for some reason - you want to go to a convention to sell it, say - then your best bet is probably to find a digital printer to do a small print run for you. Lulu is probably not competitive at print runs over 50 copies for nearly any book (although the full-color nature of this particular one makes me uncertain, as many digital printers are not equipped to handle that).

The handbook route for capitalizing indie rpg publishing is to start by selling PDF and POD-printed copies until you've amassed enough capital to do a short run printing of the game. A 100-200 copy run can then be sold to better profit per copy. Your case is very problematic in many ways as full-color book simply aren't that cheap to make by digital printing methods, but the basic principle still holds: if you don't have the capital for the printing you really want, just build up some by selling no-cost alternatives like PDF and POD until you do. Lulu comes in the picture as the POD printer, it's not a solution if you're looking to print a longer run.

(Not all books and publishers strive for longer print runs, note; it's quite feasible to just stay at POD level as long as you don't want to do direct convention sales, retailer sales or anything else.)

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