CRN Games Forum now Inactive?
Eero Tuovinen:
Huh, this one happened rather suddenly. I didn't even notice the inactivation, as there was no posts about it or anything.
I believe that it would not be off-topic for anybody to offer an explanation or a link to one, should somebody know what got to Clinton. I guess I could ask him myself, but not everybody can, and for all I know he doesn't want email, either. If this is some strange hermitage thing it's probably best if we actually knew to not pester Clinton about it, I imagine.
Ron Edwards:
Whoa. I am seeing the door to classic internet rumormongering swinging wide open.
Guys, I do not know why the forum is closed. That is a private publisher decision. It's not my business, and I really have no idea how it could be any of yours. I am getting a vibe, possibly it's just my imagination, that people are posting here in hopes of receiving some kind of insider, behind-the-scenes story. I don't have one. As is usual for publisher-driven forum closures, I didn't even know about it until the same time you did.
Nor do I think it's a good idea to make a call for one, not because I think the information is or isn't appropriate, but because it's going to become a node for gossip. Eero, you said something that's completely correct: if you want to know something about what a person did or wanted, then ask that person. It's pretty straightforward.
Best, Ron
Eero Tuovinen:
Well, I already did write Clinton about it, perhaps he'll tell me what's going on with him; if it's something he wants to share publicly, I'll let you know here. And I agree that rumors are hardly appropriate. I was more thinking along the lines of somebody having seen Clinton explain this somewhere, or something like that. I don't read the blogosphere nearly as much as many others do, so I was thinking that with everybody acting so blase, perhaps Clinton's explained himself somewhere else and I just missed it. I am a bit worried with him taking such drastic steps as irrevocably deleting blogs and inactivating a forum he doesn't frequent that much himself - I'm simply worried that something bad has happened to him.
Anyway, perhaps Clinton'll explain this in email, or says a couple of words around here himself. I imagine that I'm not exactly alone in wanting a little closure if this marks off some kind of extended CRN gaming lent. There are plenty of issues others need to solve without Clinton, after all - one such impacting the Forge is whether Ron & Vincent would be amiable to starting a new TSoY forum here on the model of the old HeroQuest forum, to faciliate the kind of discussions we've had on the game on the CRN forum. But that's also the exact kind of question that needs to be resolved only after we get some sense of the reasons behind Clinton's virtual disappearance - if his reason for inactivating his forum was (to coin an example) that he wanted us to stop discussing his games, for example, then going around him like that would be rude.
I guess what I'm saying is that Clinton's simply a too important person for me to just have him up and disappear one day without warning. In that I disagree with Ron - I've had some business with the man and am looking forward to common projects in the future, so of course it's my business to at least be aware of it if he's been diagnosed with atavism or something. I certainly did write him to ask what is wrong, but only after spending some time affirming that he hasn't already written some public declaration somewhere about how he hates the public internet and wants everybody to act like he doesn't exist, or something like that.
greyorm:
Heya, guys -- Eero -- give the man some room and air. I think things like the fate of TSOY and a discussion forum for such, etc. should become more-or-less clear if you just sit back and give them time to sort out and reveal themselves instead of rushing about wondering and worrying at the drop of a hat. Two weeks from now, if it is still utterly quiet, sure, then start to ask a few questions to see what's up. Otherwise, quiet patience is the best policy.
Eero Tuovinen:
Yeah, well, as they say - whatever. Just about the only thing I could write about at this juncture would be to try to justify why I feel entitled to be worried about Clinton, and that's not really something I need to justify to anybody. Let's wait and see if he's going to explain himself post facto. The fact that he apparently didn't explain beforehand in any way makes me fear that this is some kind of awful emergency or that Clinton's not going to explain at all, but waiting is a simple cure to that kind of uncertainty. I just hope he didn't overhaul his email addresses while at it.
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