Ashcanning with Saddle Stitch

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Darcy Burgess:
Hi,

I'm looking at the feasibility of Saddle Stitching the ashcan of Black Cadillacs.

I'm aware of this neat device, the Booklet Stapler, specifically the Stanley Bostitch B440SB.

Here's my question: they quote a capacity of 20 pages of 16lb paper.

That's a 40-page game.  Yeesh.  That's not much.

How do I get my page count up?

Thanks,
D

Eero Tuovinen:
Larger pages? Larger stapler? Another binding solution?

Personally, I haven't found it too onerous to have a very light-weight digital printer do my saddle stitching, it's cheap enough if you're doing enough copies. Of course it'd be nice to do stuff like this in-house as well. How many copies were you thinking of doing? We do runs of under a dozen copies routinely with generic staplers (not intended for pamphlets, specifically), and that works well enough.

guildofblades:
If you print it on 11" x 17" paper and the saddle stitcher can do a center fold, 20 sheets would be 80 pages.

By comparison, the thickest the hand stapler we have presently can do is center staple 12 pages. ala, a 48 page book.

(whenever making center folded booklets, 1 sheet = 4 pages).

Ryan S. Johnson
Guild of Blades Retail Group - http://www.guildofblades.com/retailgroup.php
Guild of Blades Publishing Group - http://www.guildofblades.com
1483 Online - http://www.1483online.com

Darcy Burgess:
Hi Eero,

Thanks for the suggestions.  I was originally planning to do this as a coilbound book.  The catch is that I'm doing stainless steel covers (that's not crazy for me - I'm in the machining trade).  Although I'm fully capable of cutting & punching the covers myself, the trick will be to guarantee that the hole pattern lines up with the pages (so that the covers aren't sitting too high or too low).

I decided instead to hinge the covers with a pliable material (say, bookbinders' tape) and saddle stitch the whole affair.

Larger pages are a thought, although that means larger covers.  Not too thrilled 'bout that.


Hi Ryan,
D'oh.  x4, not x2.  Colour me sheepish.  Thanks!  80 pages (lose a few to the cover, I'm sure) puts things into the realm of possibility.


Any sense of how heavy 16lb paper is?  Am I going to make up a few pages by going with flimsier paper?

Thanks!
D

guildofblades:
I can't say that I am familiar with 16lb. Standard "copy paper" is most typically 20lb offset bond. Fairly thin stuff.

This 16lb stuff. Is is glossy, coated or otherwise some kind of more dense fiber paper? If its made anything like offset bond, I can only imagine it would seem pretty cheap.

Ryan S. Johnson
Guild of Blades Retail Group - http://www.guildofblades.com/retailgroup.php
Guild of Blades Publishing Group - http://www.guildofblades.com
1483 Online - http://www.1483online.com

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