[Sorcerer] Possessing PCs
Seth M. Drebitko:
I would say to give a player only attempting momentary control bonus dice to their roll.
For example: Jeffery binds a demon far more powerful than would normally be bound, to top this he often mistreats the demon not realizing that he does not have as tight a bind as he thinks. The demon takes over Jeffery and starts trolling around in his body indulging in its drinking habits (need), and sexual (desires). Jeffery makes a couple attempts to boot the demon but has no success so he takes a new strategy. Jeffery starts to each time the demon begins to indulge its drinking need take over for just a couple seconds or minutes and spills the demons drinks destroying any bottles near him. Even though it will take him a while each week Jeffery can starve the demon of its need he can gain ground on the demon. Mind you the demon will most likely do everything in its power to destroy Jeffery's social life in the mean time, so when he gets control he might have lost his job, friends, loved ones, house.
Just my 2 cents
Regards, Seth
John Adams:
Actually, re-reading Ron's post for the third or fourth time, I think he's saying that "Take a back seat" and "Get thee hence!" are totally equivalent commands and would both be simple Will v Will rolls, modified as usual. In both cases the Sorcerer is just giving the demon a command, handled like any other command.
Did I read you correctly Ron?
Ron Edwards:
Hey guys,
John's right. The roll to boot the demon out is the same as the one to take over briefly.
One may ask, why is that? Why don't I "get" the whole enchilada when I make the roll?
The answer is, you would, if that's what you wanted and said you were trying to do. If you didn't want it (i.e. you instead wanted to stay possessed, just not for this moment), then why ask why you don't get it?
A character in a game a while ago had a Stamina of 1, and was furthermore hampered by the descriptor of almost total paralysis. She commanded a Possessor demon with Hop who was hands-down the most terrifying demon I've ever seen in playing Sorcerer. At one point, she had the demon possess her in order to get around and do some stuff. It was very risky - the demon had to keep its Power and other ability use tamped way down to keep from risking her life - but it was absolutely necessary for what she wanted to do.
So when she wanted to 'take the reins' once in a while, that's all she wanted at the moment. Getting the demon out of her body wasn't a concern until later. And as it happened, when that did happen, there was no conflict, as the demon was very happy with their Binding circumstances, knew that its master was safer (physically) when not possessed, and knew that it could cut loose with its abilities much more successfully in other hosts.
Best, Ron
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