POD Board Games
Josh Gertz:
Hey there,
While I don't have much experience with Die-Cutting, though I would probably suggest creating standard generic sizes for boxes, boards and pieces and provide templates for people to use just to minimize the cost of creating custom Dies. I did work in the picture framing business for awhile, in fact most of my family did at one point including an uncle owning one of the biggest wholesale framers on the west coast during the '70's.
For gluing and mounting I could see using and Animal Glue Application Machine and Vacuum Press to mount printed materials on the boards and boxes. Check out these items:
http://www.gluefast.com/products/colonel-AG.html
http://framersisland.com/product_info.php/cPath/36/products_id/141?osCsid=3077fd0aecde40398ab23aca19286289
They can get pricey but you never mentioned budget so I am just throwing in my two cents.
We used to glue mount prints on chip board or foam core and then throw them in the vacuum press for 10 minutes to get rid of the small air bubbles. This is the way most wholesalers do it because its quick. You can place 5-8 prints in the vacuum sealer at once.
I would suggest finding a picture framing wholesaler in the area to see the process. Most art store framers use spray glue so don't go to Michael's or Joanne's to find this equipment.
Its a bit outside of the box but it may work for this as well.
-Josh
Seth M. Drebitko:
Off topic but your pente board can be found here.
http://www.ccgarmory.com/deluxepente.html
Regards, Seth
guildofblades:
Hi Lance,
>>naugahyde or vinyl?<<
Vinyle requires specialized printers. Probably cost prohibitive if used strictly on POD game boards and boxes. Naugahyde? What is that?
Josh,
Thanks for the links. Those machines look like they could be used for what we are looking to do, but not sure if I could incorporate them into a multi-stage glue table so that the mounting could be done in the same process. Also looks like you have to manually handle the sheets through the glue applicator, which I am hoping to avoid. Because that means placement of the sheet onto whatever we are mounting by a manual method. I expect thtat would be both too slow for efficient production and lead to more errors.
But that does beg the question. If we don't use pre built system like that which can heat up glues (much like the heat tank on perfect binders), then using any sort of heat applied glue might not work. Are there non heat applied glues that can be put on and dry in a reasonably short time frame?
Ryan S. Johnson
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Josh Gertz:
Quote from: guildofblades on April 10, 2009, 04:12:06 PM
Hi Lance,
>>naugahyde or vinyl?<<
Vinyle requires specialized printers. Probably cost prohibitive if used strictly on POD game boards and boxes. Naugahyde? What is that?
Josh,
Thanks for the links. Those machines look like they could be used for what we are looking to do, but not sure if I could incorporate them into a multi-stage glue table so that the mounting could be done in the same process. Also looks like you have to manually handle the sheets through the glue applicator, which I am hoping to avoid. Because that means placement of the sheet onto whatever we are mounting by a manual method. I expect thtat would be both too slow for efficient production and lead to more errors.
But that does beg the question. If we don't use pre built system like that which can heat up glues (much like the heat tank on perfect binders), then using any sort of heat applied glue might not work. Are there non heat applied glues that can be put on and dry in a reasonably short time frame?
Ryan S. Johnson
Guild of Blades Retail Group - http://www.guildofblades.com/retailgroup.php
Guild of Blades Publishing Group - http://www.guildofblades.com
1483 Online - http://www.1483online.com
You are correct, there was an employee that was dedicated to running all of the prints through the machine and mounting them on chipboard. However he could run 300-400 a day. The warehouse I worked in handled most of the art galleries in the San Fernando Valley area, Capital Records, Warner Brothers and other high end clientele.
Im not sure if there is an automated mounter that is made as an attachment but I did find a auto feeder:
http://www.schaeferco.com/sheet_feeder.html
and a set up similar to the one the framing place had:
http://www.schaeferco.com/sheet_cementer.html
...again, I wish I could find a mounting solution but have not been successful.
-Josh
Lance D. Allen:
Naugahyde is essentially vinyl coated fabric. It's a brand-name with a variety of different types. I used to know people who'd buy Naugahyde playmats for playing Magic or similar games on. The website for the company seems to mostly be pointed toward furniture and upholstery but I figure it'd be an option game boards, too.
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