[Card Printing/Packaging] Hey Tony
Double King:
Jason,
I think Bill White went with Guild of Blades also for his limited run deck on Ganakagok. You may also want to ping him for feedback on his experiences. Those are supposed to be out for GenCon (i hope i hope).
Fwiw, I know designers that have had good and bad experiences with GoB POD. In about equal measure. Not certain how i feel about vendors using the Forge as quality control and feedback. I've been leery of that here for a while. Feels less helpful and slightly predatorial.
best,
Eric
Jason Morningstar:
I don't know, if Ryan wants to participate here I think that can only be good.
He's providing a service that is relatively unique right now, he's attuned to our needs, he's listening and responding. I don't get a hard sell vibe. I'm not seeing the downside.
matthijs:
I agree, I like to read what Ryan has to say.
David Artman:
Quote from: guildofblades on August 09, 2009, 08:52:48 AM
It just happens that your card design and color scheme was ideal for masking that variance to such a degree its extraordinarily hard to see.
Could you unpack that further? Was it a use of borders? Or is the art very detailed or "busy" so that one can't really say for sure where the center is?
And I concur with Jason, though I'd hope you'd make a template for a variety of DTP and illustration packages, not just the ($700+) InDesign (e.g. Inkscape, GIMP, Scribus, OpenOffice).
Andy Kitkowski:
Quote from: Double King on August 13, 2009, 04:35:22 AM
Fwiw, I know designers that have had good and bad experiences with GoB POD. In about equal measure. Not certain how i feel about vendors using the Forge as quality control and feedback. I've been leery of that here for a while. Feels less helpful and slightly predatorial.
Yeah, I'm mixed on this as well, would like to maybe see an official ruling on it. There's only one negative experience that I've heard of with GoB, and that was all pretty much due to the following:
1) GoB didn't (like he did this year and further) cut off clients when it looked like too much was coming his way in the con season.
2) GoB had to outsource gluing, and couldn't do as much quality control as in-house (and since, they now have their own gluing/binding machines so quality has never had problems since).
3) The author waited until the last minute to print, literally getting his product rejected by every other PoD on the market because the rush job was unmanagable.
I've had close to about 1,000 copies of Maid printed by GoB since last year. There were some glue issue last year. There was a process issue which they immediately streamlined. There have been queuing issues with print/ship jobs due to con season (I ordered a major reprint of several hundred copies, sent to 3 locations (including direct to Japan) and totally forgot that I was doing so right before Con Season, duh). Anyway, my overall experience with them has been so unshakingly positive that it will take a slew of problems (or hearing a slew of client problems that have happened within the last 8 months) to make me lose faith. Every few months I re-evaluate and keep options open (you never know what the future brings), and each time I choose GoB again.
GoB has overcome their hurdles and growing pains (last year GC-time there were a bunch that creeped up at once). So if you're looking for feedback on their service, I'd do the following:
* Discard all stories you've heard about them that happened prior to January 2009: Both positive and negative.
* Listen to the stories (both positive and negative) that have happened this year (and beyond), and make your decision then.
* Re-evaluate regularly, and be mindful of your own problems and others' recent problems. There's no reason to remain unwaveringly loyal in the face of an organization that later fails to meet goals for yourself or others, so keep your ears open.
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