[The Secret Lives of Serial Killers] Playtest
stefoid:
Sometimes the worst experiences you have become the ones you dine out on, sometime after.
Devon Oratz:
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Where it becomes bad is when this becomes institutionalized, long term, repeated and expected behavior. I find the killer players reaction of having a really great time very telling. I'm reminded of all those old games where people were talking about how they didn't roll any dice the whole game and it was "Fantastic!" I have long suspected that in situations like that there is often this very dynamic in play. That player got everything they wanted and there is a silent "victim" who feels marginalized in the session but is afraid to say anything the face of everyone else's enthusiasm.
Just as a sidenote, this is the first game my group has ever played where no dice have been rolled.
Willow:
Devon-
That comment reminds me:
A suggestion has been floated that Sunshine Boulevard could use an essentially illusory dice mechanic, one that serves to further deceive the sunshine, and to serve as a draw to the game for those who would not normally play games with Sunshine Boulevard's straightforward content- i.e. "yeah, it's a lame rpg about feelings, but you gotta check out this endgame dice mechanic!"
As the game's sole playtester thus far, what would your opinion be?
-Willow
Devon Oratz:
Is your goal to make the game design more abusive and "meaner"? (I for one am not making any moral judgments.)
If so, then you should totally add some completely bullshit dice mechanics. Keep them relatively simple, I think: it is a bit much asking people to learn complicated rules that explicitly won't matter anyway...on purpose.
Ron Edwards:
I haven't playtested the game, but I think I should clarify what I intended with my suggestion about the Sunshine Boulevard rules.
I wasn't thinking of them as being 100% cosmetic. They could be functional rules that actually do things within the context of continuing scenes while the Sunshine Boulevard illusion persists. They might involve resolution or they might be more like Breaking the Ice relationship scoring, or maybe they're even more like Gift Dice in TSOY, some kind of "ooh, I like that" bennie. But the idea is that at least while that illusion carries on, the whatever-they-are do get used and do have consequences for the fiction - just not, you know, at the end.
Best, Ron
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