April round: Themes

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Ben Lehman:
I haven't read them all yet.

One thing that surprised me is that, despite that we're using opposite terms (queen + chains, amazon + lust), Elizabeth and I wrote games which are basically thematically identical: from a position of weakness, how do you get what you want in a way that isn't about getting a position of strength?

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--Ben

stefoid:
Quote from: Ben Lehman on April 09, 2011, 08:15:42 PM

Elizabeth and I wrote games which are basically thematically identical: from a position of weakness, how do you get what you want in a way that isn't about getting a position of strength?



??? cam whores manipulate marks for cash.  They could could have got a job serving hamburgers or whatever, but they chose differently.  They did chose to take the position of strength over the other options.

contracycle:
Turning yourself into a commodity isn't a position of strength.  It is not for nothing that we say that buyers exercise demand.

stefoid:
Quote from: contracycle on April 10, 2011, 10:49:30 PM

Turning yourself into a commodity isn't a position of strength.  It is not for nothing that we say that buyers exercise demand.


I dont get it.

Ron Edwards:
I'm certain everyone already realizes that any brand of prostitution raises issues of power imbalance in a specially ambiguous fashion - who has it, when, about what, et cetera. And I'm also certain it won't get resolved via one-liner replies back and forth. The topic is way too easily subverted into identity positioning festivals, and although I don't think the dialogue has reached this point, I'm alerting everyone to the fact that if and when I think it does, I'll stomp it.

That said, all substantial discussion of Camwhores' theme and related more general points is welcome.

Best, Ron

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